I would rate theese gloves 4 out of 5. Unfortunately I am not able to edit my rating, only the text. I absolutely love theese gloves. I use them as shell-gloves with thin fingerless woolen glovelettes underneath for back-country skiing. Mind that theese gloves are NOT waterproof and thus theese gloves are better suited for sub-zero temperatures. PROS: Well made with great materials. Well made layout (besides part of stitching). VERY EASY donning, undonning and adjusting. Theese gloves are unlined and the leather is really subtle which allows for low weight, low bulkyness and great dexterity. CONS: Theese gloves unfortunately have a stiching line that runs around the base of the thump were most of the wear is when using ski poles. This stiching line have already begun to show signs of damage om both of my pairs and my guess is that the stitching at this exact spot will give in long before the rest of the gloves. SIZING: I normally use gloves size 8.5 to 9. I have theese gloves in both size medium and size large. Size medium is a nice roomy fit with more than enough room for thinner woolen gloves underneath. Size large is too big for my hands unless i wear thick woolen gloves underneath. IMPROVEMENT POINTS - IN MY OPINION: I really like theese gloves, do not get me wrong, but they are not more rugged than their weakest part, which is not very rugged. The stitching at the base of the thumb seems to be the critical point - at least if using ski poles. This area could be reinforced with a patch of scrap/waste leather (PacMan shaped) from the main manufacturing process. I would gladly pay the 6,62 euros extra for this 5 minute sewing operation.